Questions tagged [multigrid]
An approach to solving systems of equations by projecting the problem from a fine scale representation onto a coarser one. A coarse representation generally has fewer unknowns, making it faster to solve than the original problem. The coarse solution can then be projected back onto the finer problem as an initial guess of the solution to the finer problem.
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Why does smoothed aggregation multigrid method used as preconditioner in conjugate gradient slows down the solution time?
I'm solving a system of linear equations obtained from the FEM discretization of a simple linear elasticity problem on a cube with zero displacements at one plane and a load on the opposite one. The ...
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Calculating coarse grid matrix in geometric multigird
The coarse grid matrix is calculated via RAP where R,P are the restriction and interpolation matrix,respectively.By checking a typical MG algorithm
I want to ask how to calculate efficiently coarse ...
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Full approximation scheme - smoothers - literature recomendation
I would like to use full approximation scheme(FAS) for solving nonlinear PDE. I am looking into practical implementation of FAS in parallel(MPI) settings. I noticed the most common/effective smoother ...
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Residual of Poisson equation with periodic boundaries
I am trying to write a multigrid solver for Poisson's equation, $-\Delta u=f$, on the unit square, $\Omega=(0,1)^2$ with periodic boundaries. My primary source has been Multigrid by Trottenberg, ...
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How the number of pre-smoothing and post-smoothing steps affect the asymtotic convergence rate of geometrical Multigrid?
Does the convergence rate of multigrid depend on the total number of smoothing steps or on the number of pre and post smoothing steps seperately?
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How coarsening rate affects MG convergence?
If we use an aggresive coarsening how does this affect the convergence of a MG cycle?Is the convergence slower?Do we need more cycles in this case?
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Why post-smoothing in MG is needed?
In pre-smoothing we eliminate high frequencies,but what about post-smoothing?Is it used for the remain high frequencies that pre-smoothing didn't eliminate?
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Avoid matrix multiplication in algebraic multigrid method
Currently when I try to solve a linear algebra system of the form of $A x =b$ I use the algebraic multigrid method. The algebraic multigrid method uses a Galerkin product to form the coarse grid ...
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What kind of problem or matrices are suitable for multigrid method?
For Poisson or Convection-diffusion equation as follows:
$$
-\Delta u=f,\qquad u|_\Omega = g.
$$
or
$$
-\Delta u +\vec{w}.\nabla u=f,\qquad u|_\Omega = g.
$$
using FDM or FEM discretization, we can ...
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How to implement Geometric Multigrid in non-rectangular grids?
It is quite easy to implement multigrid on a rectangular grid but what about an non-rectangular?How to coarse a non-rectangular grid and apply multigrid(assume an easy non-rectangular grid capital ...
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Multilevel minimization - boundary conditions
I am interested in minimizing
$$min_{x \in R^{n^l}} f^l(x),$$
where $f^l(x)$ is nonlinear objective function arising from discretization of PDE. I would like to use nonlinear multilevel minimization ...
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When semicoarsening is needed in multigrid method?
I am trying to understand multigrid in deep and all the coarsening techiques.
So,assuming a 2D grid when semicoarsening is prefered instead of standard coarsening?What is the error's behaviour when a ...
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How suitable is multigrid method for time-dependent PDEs?
For elliptic PDEs (Poisson-type), the multigrid method is very sufficient, but how about time-dependent problems (i.e parabolic or hyperbolic PDEs)?
Is it efficient to solve such problems using a ...
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Can the standard multigrid performance be used for time-dependent PDEs?
Consider a time dependent pde(i.e u(x,t)).I know when only space-coarsening is used the standard multigrid performance can be applied but what if instead we use only time-coarsening?Can we apply the ...
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Can a direct method like Thomas be used in a multigrid method as a smoother?
As far as I know, multigrid uses stationary iterative methods as smoothers (i.e GS), but can we use a direct method also?
For example, in case we have a tridiagonal system (for example 1D heat ...
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Is there any method to incorporate minor changes into solved meshes to speed convergence in particle-in-cell solvers?
Apologies for the terrible title.
I'm trying to perform a 10^6 timestep electrostatic particle-in-cell simulation on a rather large mesh, with very limited computational resources (a single GPU). ...
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How do multigrid approaches deal with Gibbs phenomenon?
I know (from https://scicomp.stackexchange.com/a/31339/20545, among others) that I need a certain mesh density in FEM, else I might get non-physical oscillations in my solution.
How do multigrid ...
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Null space for smoothed aggregation algebraic multigrid
I do not really get the point of null space usage for creating the prolongation operator for smoothed aggregation algebraic multigrid. I know what the null space is per definition and I know that the ...
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Algebraic multigrid for complex valued matrices
Assume one uses the classical AMG with Ruge-Stuben coarsening and direct interpolation for solving real valued problems. How can this approach be recycled to also solve complex valued problems like ...
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Multigrid preconditioner for conjugate gradient methods
When solving $A*x=b$ using preconditioned conjugate gradient methods one has to solve $z=K^{-1}*r$ for the preconditioning where $K$ is the preconditioner of $A$ and $r$ is the residual vector.
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Converting mass density to point mass approximation on a grid
In an nbody gravity simulation, instead of doing exact(all-pair brute force) solution, I added masses of each body into cells of a 3D grid(each cell is just a float value having a mass value). Then ...
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Neumann-Neumann boundary intersection
I am trying to solve a Vertex Centered, Finite Difference, Poisson equation $-\nabla^{2}u=f$ with Dirichlet boundaries on the left and bottom and Neumann boundaries on the top and right using ...
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Algebraic multigrid in PETSc
Consider a potential/poisson equation on a very large, complicated geometry. Currently, an self-written FEM and linear solvers from NumPy are used. Performance is, of course, not good enough for ...
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For which problems Krylov subspace methods are preferred over multigrid methods?
As multigrid methods are known to have grid independent convergence rates with $O(N)$ computational cost, then why would one be interested in using Krylov subspace methods at all, for which ...
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V-cycle Multigrid for 2D transient heat transfer on a square plate using finite difference
I'm currently developing a program to solve 2D transient state heat conduction on a square plate using the V-cycle multigrid. Althought my program is able to reach the steady state solution, it's ...
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What is the default smoother for the “PCMG” preconditioner in PETSc?
For a large parallel sparse matrix (mpiaij type matrix) in my code, I was experimenting with various preconditioners to see which one would do best with GMRES/BiCGSTAB. I tried the PCMG ...
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Can I use multigrid to solve linear algebra problems that do not arise from a differential equation?
Can the Multigrid method be applied to solve a linear system of equations in the form $Ax=b$, that is not necessarily related to differential equations?
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Geometric Multigrid for Conform and Non–″ Elements: Restriction Operators
First of all, let me set up some notations.
Suppose we have a hierarchy of meshes $\mathcal{T}_0 \subset \mathcal{T}_1 \subset \dots \subset \mathcal{T}_n$. For simplicity I restrict myself here to $...
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What does it take to prove that a multigrid algorithm scales linearly with system size?
It is my understanding that the multigrid solution techniques are generally the preferable method to solve large Poisson problems. Now assume I have written a multigrid solver that is tailored to my ...
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Multigrid for Robin boundary conditions
I have a question regarding the treatment of Robin boundary conditions in a multigrid solver. I am solving the Poisson equation in $\Omega=(0,1)^2$ with Robin boundary conditions on the boundary,
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Algorithm for Adaptive Mesh Refinement
I am trying to implement Adaptive Mesh Refinement. I am not a Mathematics/Computational Science person so I will try to write the algorithm in a simpler way. I will be grateful if experts can comment ...
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Python environments for AMG and Gauss Seidel as solvers instead of preconditioners
I am working on block preconditioning and seemingly it is common to write customised Krylov solvers for them. Within each solver, the individual block linear system with preconditioners are ...
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Does algebraic multigrid reuse its coarse grids?
Admittedly, I'm new to the subject, so this is probably a really simple question.
Let's assume I want to solve the (large sparse) linear system Ax = b multiple times with algebraic multigrid and b ...
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Robust smoothers for geometric multigrid
I'm searching for robust smoothers for geometric multigrids.
By robust I mean:
Effective for high order approximations (say spectral element, spectral Discontinuous Galerkin),
Parallel (suitable for ...
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How to define residual in multigrid approach?
I wish to solve the two-dimensional Navier Stokes equations using multigrid method on a collocated grid using the Predictor-Corrector method mentioned below. But first, let me elaborate on what I had ...
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Algebraic Multigrid: Why does the product of interpolation and restriction not result in something with norm 1?
I'm currently working with "A Multigrid Tutorial" by Briggs et al, Chapter 8.
The construction of the interpolation operator is given as:
Then construction of restriction operator and fine grid ...
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Solving new linear system that comes from an $p$ enrichment
Let's say I am solving a simple Poisson problem using a Mixed (DG) finite element method. If we use orthogonal polynomials as basis functions we can write the finite-dimensional linear system as
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Quadtree type Grid
I would like to code for a quadtree type meshing but don't know how to do. If anyone can help or can share any starting code?
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Solve FEM matrix from coupled system
I'm developing an FEM solver for a coupled system. I have diffusion and potential equations which result in positive definite matrices for each equation, but the coupling makes the overall system ...
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Increasing V-cycles for constant Coarsest Grid Size and increasing Fine Grid size
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I implemented geometric multigrid for $-\nabla^{2}=f$ where $f=\frac{3\pi^{2}}{4}sin \frac{\pi x}{2} sin \frac{\pi y}{2} sin \frac{\pi z}{2}$ on $\Omega \in [0,1]$ on a unit cube. ...
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Is it usual to have no convergence checking in Multigrid?
I just read Chapter 3 in "A Multigrid Tutorial" by Briggs/Henson/McCormick, link.
The text is about Multigrid cycles such as V-cycle, mu-cycle, FMG. What caught my eye: In most iterative procedures ...
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Multigrid on “not perfectly rectangular” grid
Multigrid introductions normally use a rectangular grid. Interpolation of values is then straight forward: Just interpolate linearly on the edge between two adjacent nodes of the coarse grid to find ...
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FENICS subdomains - restriction/ prolongation operators
I am trying to implement my own multigrid method in fenics. Is there any "smart/ fenics" way how to assemble subdomains and obtain restriction/ prolongation operators ?
Thanks!
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stabilizing advection-diffusion with multi-grid?
If one chooses to discetize the advection-diffusion (AD) equation using the standard Galerkin finite element method, stability issues may arise in cases of high Peclet number (i.e., high advection to ...
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Challenges in implementing Algebraic Multigrid on millions of processors
I just implemented an Algebraic Multigrid solver for a Mixed Dirichlet-Neumann Boundary Value problem and was surprised to see the speed-up as compared to a simple iterative solver for a large problem ...
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A doubt in Multigrid V-cycle
Assume I have 3 levels of grids. Finest Grid = level 2, Coarser Grid = level 1, Coarsest Grid = level 0.
Relax $u$ on $Au = b$ at level 2 for 3 times.
Find residual $r2$ at level 2, then restrict to ...
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Specific questions for 2-D Multigrid
I am simulating $\nabla^{2}u=0$ with mixed Dirichlet-Neumann boundary conditions on 2-D using 2-Grid method. Dirichlet ...
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How is Krylov-accelerated Multigrid (using MG as a preconditioner) motivated?
Multigrid (MG) may be used to solve a linear system $Ax=b$ by constructing an initial guess $x_0$ and repeating the following for $i=0,1..$ until convergence:
Compute the residual $r_i = b-Ax_i$
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Optimization of nonlocal stencil-like operator on subset of regular grid
I am trying to optimize the execution time for this particular piece of fortran code.
Details:
i_gc is a (ngpts, 3) array of containing (i,j,k) indices for each grid point. This is a subset of the ...
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Can F-cycle substitue FMG for update of existent solution?
I have a nicely working multigrid solver, which I use for solving the Poisson equation from an electrostatic problem. I solve this equation first without any charges, and then many times with a slowly ...
