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This question is a follow-up to Fortran: Best way to time sections of your code?.

If I want to time functions in my code, I know I could use gprof or kcachegrind. I also know that the results from these tools can be skewed (see http://www.yosefk.com/blog/how-profilers-lie-the-cases-of-gprof-and-kcachegrind.html and https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1777556/alternatives-to-gprof/1779343#1779343).

I know I could add manual timers to each function for which I want data, which can be tedious or impractical for libraries, if I want data for everything.

Unfortunately, I run into communities that want this timing data to use as evidence in arguing for the performance their methods (to demonstrate improvement in performance, point out spots where performance is bad, for scientific papers, and so on). This seems to be popular with management-types and some academic-types. Is there a better way to get reliably accurate timing data than inserting timers? Should I be using a combination of imperfect tools and sifting through the performance data in some way?

(Note: This question isn't about performance tuning, even though it's related. You can do performance tuning without timing things by using random pausing. It also isn't about whether or not timing is worthwhile, because these communities want timing data, and I don't have the power to change their mind easily. Any comments about these topics are great discussion, but they're not helpful in answering my question, because the reality is that the people I answer to want timing data that somehow reflects performance.)

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  • $\begingroup$ Hi Geoff. You can get fairly accurate time fraction if you can get a large number of stack samples, as you might with oprofile. The fraction of samples $f$ where your function appears gives its inclusive fraction. If you get $n$ samples, the standard error is $\sqrt{nf(1-f)}$. So for a 1% standard error, you need around 10^4 to 10^5 samples. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 17, 2016 at 15:14

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You might consider a stack sampling profiler like HPCToolkit or VTune, or the system profiler for Linux, prof.

Also, I don't see what's objectionable about wanting to know how long things take. If you want to demonstrate that your implementation of an algorithm has the asymptotic performance you derived, actually measuring the running time is the best way to do so.

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  • $\begingroup$ I don't either, but the random pausing crowd likes to object to timing in favor of stack samples. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 15, 2013 at 0:33
  • $\begingroup$ Isn't random pausing proto-stack-sampling? $\endgroup$
    – Bill Barth
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  • $\begingroup$ Never mind, I misread your comment. A better point would be that they may be objecting to timing because of the known issues with timing profilers. Explicit timing around routines of interest can't be objected to on these grounds, though you may be looking in the wrong place without good sampling. Depends on your purpose, I guess. $\endgroup$
    – Bill Barth
    Commented Apr 15, 2013 at 1:11
  • $\begingroup$ + @Geoff: Stack samples tell you percentages of total time, where total time itself is trivial to measure. If you want statistical precision of those percentages, you need lots of samples. Then if you want average-time-per-call you also need invocation counts of the suspect routines. That's how I would proceed. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 19, 2013 at 1:12
  • $\begingroup$ @Geoff: I forgot to mention Zoom. The bad part is it is not free software, and I've been admonished not to recommend it for that reason :) The good part is it may do what you need. $\endgroup$ Commented Apr 19, 2013 at 1:21
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While it may be true that gprof or valgrind's cachegrind can produce skewed results, they are almost always good enough for what you really want to do -- namely find out which functions are "expensive" and which are "not expensive". As the article you quote shows, it's possible to generate programs for which profilers do not show the whole story, or in fact even show falsehoods. However, when you apply profiles to "real programs", they do almost always give you a fairly good picture of the truth, and that is precisely why they are still used.

In other words, despite their limitations, I do believe that when applied to real-world programs, profiles do show very useful data and I would not hesitate to include this data into publications (with a short description of said limitations).

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I've often used Intel's VTune Amplifier to get precise timings, which, on the right hardware, will break timings down to the instruction level. The better results come from using on-chip counters, i.e. the Performance Monitoring Unit.

The counts are still not exact, but have a much better resolution than what you can get out of software-based collectors.

As for your comment on the need for exact numbers, I don't completely agree. I don't consider myself to be a bean counter, but I rely heavily on timer, mostly implemented directly in the code using calls to cycle.h from FFTW wrapped in macros, for actual research. Specifically, I work on algorithms for task-based parallelism, and need good estimates of the time spent doing actual work vs. overheads in the task allocation. These overheads are usually the sum of many small function calls and can be difficult to assess in a profiler, but are pretty much the only measure of how good a scheduling scheme is. In this case, precise timers are actually a necessary condition to doing good research.

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